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With No Help From Rep. Guinta, Bass and Others Approve ‘Fiscal Cliff’ Avoidance Bill

Just How Reckless and Irresponsible Is Congressman Guinta? He Would Rather See Taxes Go Up on New Hampshire’s Middle Class Families by $2,200 and the Economy Suffer Before Seeing a Millionaire Pay a Dime More in Taxes  

The long national nightmare is over as the U.S. House approved by a 257-167 margin the strongly bipartisan Senate ‘fiscal cliff’ avoidance bill that will effectively roll back the $2,200 middle class tax hike that was triggered automatically on midnight January 1st.  The bill now headed to the President’s desk -- despite Congressman Guinta’s misguided opposition -- will permanently extend tax relief for all but the richest individuals making more than $400,000 a year and families making more than $450,000. These wealthy Americans will see their tax rates go from 35% back to Clinton-era level of 39.6 percent when the nation saw one of its greatest periods of economic prosperity and job creation, a move not only supported by the American people but by even most millionaires.  Additionally, the ‘fiscal cliff’ avoidance bill also includes other important measures to protect families and spur economic growth, including extending jobless benefits for the long-term unemployed (which expired Friday) through the end of 2013. 

Sue Roman, a volunteer with the Action, a joint project of Granite State Progress and New Hampshire Citizens Alliance for Action: “Last night’s vote demonstrates that Frank Guinta clearly didn’t get the message voters sent in November when they voted him out of office. New Hampshire citizens voted to protect Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid; ask the nation’s wealthiest taxpayers to pay a little more; and to protect families without work struggling during this recovery. To his credit, Congressman Bass proved that the middle-class matters and that he heard the voices of voters. Too bad Frank Guinta is still too wed to his right-wing views to vote the conscience of the state.”

ABOUT THE ACTION: The Action NH is a joint project of NH Citizens Alliance for Action and Granite State Progress, and part of a national grassroots movement that demanded Congress end the Bush-era tax cuts for the richest 2%—the final deal ended the tax break for those making more than $400,000 per year. The Action is for critical investments that create and sustain jobs.

 

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Seamus Carty

5:48 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013

This legislation raises taxes on 70% of Americans. I applaud Guinta and Bass for voting against it.

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Patriot

7:33 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013

Seamus, the good people that voted for change can enjoy the impacts of the Obama administration and the rest of the dem. impacts. Lucky for the rep. they did not take control before the citizens of this country find out what the true impacts of Obama are.
National Health care, attacks on the productive citizens and the self gratification of a conceded white house.

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Mike Healey

7:44 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013

Republicans are the ones who fought to raise your payroll taxes, not the President.

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Atlant Schmidt

7:46 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013

According to the New York Times, Bass voted for it.

And it's not really correct that "this legislation" raises taxes on 70% of Americans. Perhaps you're referring to the fact that this legislation *DOESN'T EXTEND* the payroll tax holiday which has been in effect for the last two years? No vote was taken on that issue.

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Mike Healey

7:51 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013

This poorly phased headline also agrees that "Bass and Others Approve ‘Fiscal Cliff’ Avoidance Bill"

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Celia Brown

8:07 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013

400k...the new middle class..LMAO

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Celia Brown

8:10 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013

Guinta was right in so many ways.....the debt....extending the nanny entitlements....pork.......given that we live in a representative democracy, he did the right thing voting no!

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Celia Brown

8:15 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013

I'm pissed that Ayotte voted for this crap sandwich... We'll hopefully we'll witness the dirtiest, most painful deliberations in the coming months with the new congress in place. we'll see how bad Elections have their consequences. That goodness we live in a town that is smarter than the rest, by a wide margin, when it comes to political ideology and common sense. Flakes like the authors of this trash have no place in Windham.

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Patriot

10:45 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013

Mike if you are right and this is not what the democrats in the Senate or the President of the United States want; don't vote for it!
I fear you are completely wrong!

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Mike Healey

7:41 am on Friday, January 4, 2013

Facts are not something you should fear Patriot, and they are readily available to anyone who seeks them.

Granite State Progress

8:52 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013

Sen. Ayotte and Rep. Bass joined a huge majority of both Democrats and Republicans in the Senate and a wide majority in the House to pass legislation that both protects middle-class voters by keeping their income tax rates low AND protecting social security by adequately funding it. Social security taxes will increase by about $384 dollars a year on someone making $41,000 (http://economy.money.cnn.com/2013/01/02/taxes-fiscal-cliff/). However, the will that taxpayer will continue to see lower taxes thanks to the extension of the Obama tax cuts including the "American Opportunity Tax Credit, a partially refundable credit of up to $2,500 a year for four years for low-income families; Child Tax Credit, which allows lower-income parents to claim as much as $1,000 for each child under age 17 and is refundable for some, and the Earned Income Tax Credit, which provides a credit for working Americans with low- and moderate-incomes. The expanded dependent care credit, which allows certain taxpayers to deduct up to 35% of expenses to a maximum of $6,000 for two children, is permanently extended." Meanwhile, a married couple earning between $50,000 and $85,000 with two children will continue to enjoy a $2200 tax cut (http://www.nbcnews.com/business/stocks-open-lower-new-fiscal-cliff-warnings-1C7208006) that Frank voted against. Frank voted to INCREASE taxes - even Grover Norquist would tell you that.

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Granite State Progress

11:40 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013

But their after-tax pay will go up. Thank you Pres. Obama.

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steve forte

8:56 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013

How do ya figure . For starters net is after tax. If their tax rate stays the same mind explaining how it will go up?

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Proud Conservative

1:08 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013

What???? Net take home pay will go up when more taxes are taken out? You didn't do too well in math, did you?

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Celia Brown

12:01 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

Hey Dumbass, 77% of American's paycheck just got reduced..in some cases significantly. Thank your Democratic president and congressperson. But to your consitutuents, it's unchanged. They still get section 8, SSI, unemployment, cell phones, etc. I.E. these are your new core constituents. Be happy Be proud!

David Pittelli

7:22 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013

I think it's a bit much to assume a man's motivations and attack him for voting against -- or for that matter, for -- this bill, when it contains measures for people of any ideological background to hate, and other measures for the same people to like.

Also, if the 'fiscal cliff' alternative was so awful, why did majorities vote for it last year? They did so because they felt that our deficit is unsustainable, and that we needed radical medicine to reduce the deficit. This deal which the author favors does much less to reduce the deficit than the fiscal cliff would have done. No one really knows whether this deal or the fiscal cliff would be better for the economy. The liberals who say the fiscal cliff would devastate the economy are the same people who said Obama's $800 million stimulus would keep unemployment from ever rising above 8%.

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steve forte

8:37 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013

You also left out the part that they have been begging for a cut in military spending and a tax hike for 3 yrs. That was their chance and when it came time all of a sudden it became " catostrafic"

Proud Conservative

9:28 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013

Private sector created 215,000 jobs last month. New unemployment claims were 372,000. That's a net loss of 157,000 jobs. Isn't that Obama just wonderful? Everything he sticks his nose in turns into a disaster. But that's his plan, right?

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Atlant Schmidt

10:49 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013

Fox News disagrees with you on the meaning of these numbers.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/2013/01/03/jobless-claims-tick-up-10000-last-week/

"The number of new unemployment claims jumped last week during the typically volatile holiday period, but the measure of layoffs is below year ago levels, pointing to a labor market that slowly improved in 2012.

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Economists warn against reading too much into late December figures given the volatility of claims around this time of year. Certain industries have planned layoffs, which can affect the unadjusted numbers.

The four-week moving average of claims, which smoothes out volatile weekly data, increased by 250 to 360,000 last week. A year earlier, the four-week average stood at 377,000.

The mild improvement is in line with other measures of the labor market. The unemployment rate fell to 7.7% in November from 8.7% a year earlier. The government will release December unemployment data on Friday. Economists expect the rate to remain unchanged.

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Mike Healey

7:39 am on Friday, January 4, 2013

Keep spinning those facts PC

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Seamus Carty

5:20 pm on Saturday, January 5, 2013

Atlant quoting Fox News.... Too funny...

Simon Says

1:28 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013

This granite state pgress is just a tinker toy group and not to be taken seriously.

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Mike Healey

7:38 am on Friday, January 4, 2013

"not to be taken seriously" said a nobody hiding behind an alias......

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Jan Schmidt

8:30 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

NF your comment is a personal attack and should be deleted.

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Seamus Carty

5:21 pm on Saturday, January 5, 2013

"a nobody hiding behind an alias". Like you buddy Atlant?

Granite State Progress

9:14 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013

I don't know what "tinkertoy group" means, but let me assure you, I'm very much a flesh and blood human being working with other flesh and blood human beings to protect the middle class. That's why we are so upset with Frank's vote. And we're not alone - The Portsmouth Herald said much the same thing in an editorial today (http://www.seacoastonline.com/articles/20130103-OPINION-301030382).

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Patriot

5:21 am on Friday, January 4, 2013

Real conservative news paper, don't worry, you have a whole new group from NH to blame for any ilks that come our way,

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steve forte

7:10 am on Friday, January 4, 2013

Your upset because Frank didnt vote to continue reckless spending? Great group ya got there.

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Mike Healey

7:42 am on Friday, January 4, 2013

Funding the military is "reckless"?

ForThePeople

9:20 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013

Overall, I'm disappointed. I would rather have gone over the cliff. We could have gotten a better deal over the long-term in exchange for some short-term sacrifice.
$400,000 is not middle-class.

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Patriot

5:26 am on Friday, January 4, 2013

Glad to read you agree with Bass and Guinta.

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Mike Healey

3:17 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

You do know that Bass and Guinta were on opposite sides of the vote, right?

Proud Conservative

5:32 am on Friday, January 4, 2013

It amazes me that there are so many ignorant and gullible people in this country that actually believe what Obama says. His record is one of deceit and lies, yet there are blockheads out there who continue to believe this modern day Pinocchio.

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Mike Healey

7:36 am on Friday, January 4, 2013

It amazes me that there are so many ignorant and gullible people in this country that don't believe what Obama says. They listen to crazy right wing pundits deceit and lies, yet these blockheads continue to believe these modern day Pinocchios.

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Proud Conservative

8:35 am on Friday, January 4, 2013

Mike Healey - you proved my point. Thanks!

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Mike Healey

12:16 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

I think you proved my point. Thanks!

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Mike Healey

3:14 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

Stop attacking Proud Conservative, Flashy

Patriot

5:33 am on Friday, January 4, 2013

When you employee the slave trade of illegal workers it does nothing to help the legal workers. If the workers make as much money as the unemployed there is no incentive to work. That forces business to find those labor pools from somewhere else and makes the low wage earners angry because they see no way out of poverty.

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steve forte

7:11 am on Friday, January 4, 2013

Exactly. People are either too neive to figure this out , or thay flat out dont care as long as they can continue to buy stuff cheap.

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Mike Healey

7:46 am on Friday, January 4, 2013

Who is employing slave trade illegal workers?
You have to earn unemployment and it runs out.
Businesses are forced to employ undocumented workers which hurts low wage earners feelings??

steve forte

7:57 am on Friday, January 4, 2013

Who , framers painters , drywall companies , landscapers . Thats who .12 million illegal aliens , 12 million unemployed. Dosnt take a math wiz.

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Mike Healey

8:20 am on Friday, January 4, 2013

Framers, painters, and drywallers are all good paying jobs.

I don't think any of those companies employ slaves.

What does this have to do with this legislation?

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Seamus Carty

5:28 pm on Saturday, January 5, 2013

I know people that run drywall and painting companies. They hire "foremen" who are legal. The foremen then hire illegals who are paid cash. A wink and a nod. They tell me they have to do this or they are out of business. The government does not enforce the law.

steve forte

8:36 am on Friday, January 4, 2013

No MIke not slaves. Illegal aliens. Allowing companies to continue to do so is no different then companies offshoring. Problem is neither side wants to touch it as its political suicide.

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Mike Healey

1:20 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

Is someone "allowing companies" to hire undocumented immigrants?

Proud Conservative

8:42 am on Friday, January 4, 2013

Obama- If the Supreme Court throws out the federal health care law, it “would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact- Slim majority, not unprecedented)

Obama- “For the first time since 1990, American manufacturers are creating new jobs.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False

Obama- “Preventive care … saves money, for families, for businesses, for government, for everybody.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact- Wrong in 2009, and wrong today)

Obama- “Thirty million Americans, including a lot of people in Florida, are going to be able to get healthcare next year because of that law.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False

Obama- “I made a bunch of these promises during the campaign. … We’ve got about 60 percent done in three years.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact- “In the Works” does not equal “done”)

Obama Admin.- Under President Barack Obama, the United States has “doubled our exports.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False

Obama Admin.- The president’s proposed budget “will help reduce the deficit by $400 billion over the next decade to the lowest level since Dwight Eisenhower was president.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact-A mangled reference to a prior talking point)

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Proud Conservative

8:45 am on Friday, January 4, 2013

Obama- Under the White House’s budget proposal, “we will not be adding more to the national debt” by the middle of the decade.
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact-Revenue would equal outlays, but he ignores growing interest on the debt)

Obama- Twelve judges have thrown out legal challenges to the health care law because they rejected “the notion that the health care law was unconstitutional.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact-Score two to two on judges’ decisions on constitionality)

Obama- “I didn’t raise taxes once.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact-We’ve tracked a few increases)

Obama- When President Franklin D. Roosevelt started Social Security, “it only affected widows and orphans,” and when Medicare began, “it was a small program.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact-A grain of truth in the big picture, far off on the details)

Obama- The Bush administration had been “giving (auto companies) billions of dollars and just asking nothing in return.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False

Obama- “The vast majority of the money I got was from small donors all across the country.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact-Big donors bankrolled much of Obama’s campaign)

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Proud Conservative

8:46 am on Friday, January 4, 2013

Obama- “We’ve excluded lobbyists from policymaking jobs.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact-We found at least four)

Obama- When Obama was interviewed by American reporters in Asia, “Not one of them asked me about Asia. Not one of them asked me about the economy.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact-More than one did)

Obama- Insurers delayed an Illinois man’s treatment, “and he died because of it.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(Insurer’s decision was reversed and man lived three more years)

Obama- Health reform will “give every American the same opportunity” to buy health insurance the way members of Congress do.
Truth-O-Meter rating: False

Obama- Preventive care “saves money.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact-Covering preventive care for everyone is a net cost)

Obama- (No earmarks in spending bill)
Truth-O-Meter rating: False

That was only from page one of Obama’s false statement PolitiFact files.

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Mike Healey

12:17 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

Do you want to post his statements deemed true now?

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Mike Healey

12:18 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

Disagreeing with how the President phrased something doesn't make him dishonest.

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Mike Healey

1:19 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

You can tell when Flashy is wrong, its whenever he posts.

Celia Brown

12:14 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

This Fiscal Cliff sales job by the moonbats in D.C. is starting to get noticed by the moonbat constituents who went along with the scheme, now they are starting to feel duped like the rest of us. LMAO www.democraticunderground.com/10022125273

Upon dissection they realize that this hit to their checks is actually comperable to those making 400k and above - and they are right!!!

Face it moonbats everyone gets porked with this Fiscal Cliff....

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Celia Brown

12:19 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

Freedomworks, a moonbat tank, whose ideologies go as far away from actual freedom, even had this to say about it "The Price for having your head in the sand just went up" At least this outfit admitted their dolt-ness

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Celia Brown

12:21 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

Even the 'Labor Union Report' comments "So, an idiot Lefty finally figures out Hope and Change" as it referenced the discussion thread from democratic underground.com

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Patriot

3:03 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

Here is the site Rush was talking about today.
http://www.bluehampshire.com/

Apparently a state rep (democrat) wants to use legislation to disenfranchise republicans in hopes they will move out of state. First "Free Staters" and now the democrats are getting in the mix.

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Jan Schmidt

3:23 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

Celia? Isn't the childish name "moonbat" usually assigned to people on the left? Freedomworks is parellel with the TeaParty... hardly left... not even middle...

And you'll find that people on DU are all over the place in their beliefs - quite often as angry with Washington as anyone - always have been and always will be.

And there was no 'cliff" - that was a phony disaster the press used to increase excitement. Because all it was was just a can that the House kicked down the road because they didn't want to be responsible for fixing anything.

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Patriot

6:27 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

And so it gets even better!
This is what our "State Representatives" are doing with our taxes!!
Engaging in war with legislation!!!
http://thefreeeconomy.com/?p=1089

steve forte

12:25 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

Im glad the payroll tax break expired. Its what funds SS. Should have never been cut in the first place as doing so obviously did nothing.

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Mike Healey

1:19 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

"Obviously did nothing"? Obviously......

steve forte

4:17 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

Why Mike , did you finaly balance the family budget with that extra $26 a week?

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Proud Conservative

6:47 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

After President Obama wrapped her in a well-publicized embrace, Donna Vanzant became the face of a promise of “immediate” assistance from the federal government in the days after superstorm Sandy devastated the East Coast.

“You promise something, you keep it. And that was a broken promise." - Donna Vanzant

But as Vanzant battled with her insurance company for the funds to rebuild her Jersey Shore marina, she had another brush with the commander-in-chief that left her feeling less confident in Washington's efforts. After sending an email to the White House asking for the federal government to make good on its promise to help, Vanzant received a form letter that never answered her questions.

“It had nothing to do with what I was asking him. It was a form letter. It thanked me for supporting the troops,” Vanzant said in an interview The Philly Post blog on Friday. “He made a promise to rebuild on national television, and I can’t even get this money. It’s heartbreaking, really.”

Obama lies. Did she expect anything else from the socialist Pinocchio?

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salemvoter

10:04 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

Atlant- it's cute that you keep calling the raising of the payroll tax on poor and middle class Americans the end of a a "tax holiday". During the campaign Democrats all claimed Republicans were raising taxes on the middle class because the Bush tax cuts were expiring. They didn't say it was the end of a 'tax holiday'.
Its unfortunate that your ilk cannot have a sane rational discussion on the issues confronting the country.
What are you people all afraid of?

Joe

7:29 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

So today my wife and I received our first paycheck of 2013.

Normally, Friday evening is a dining out night. Spending our money in the local community. Supporting a local business, local folks working hard to earn a living.

Well, the new 2% increase in the Social Security sucked up the dollars in our budget for dining out tonight. Yup, the money went to Washington to "feed the pig."

So, to that local business owner, chef, waitress, bartender who would have a few more dollars in their pocket tonight had "the pig" not confiscated it, I say, "Sorry". What else can I say other than, "Thanks Barack! Nice plan."

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F. R.

9:27 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

..and not one cent of that extra money they just took from you (and us) will go towards anything but adding to the bloated bureaucracy- they'll call that creating jobs.

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ForThePeople

10:24 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

Something tells me your altruism is only matched by your sincerity.

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steve forte

8:04 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

So Joe you never ate out before this cut was started just 2 or so yrs ago?

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Atlant Schmidt

8:18 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

Joe,

Actually, your money went to keep food on granny's table. The decrease in your pay packet was a result of the *RETURN* of the Social Security payroll tax to the 6.2% level it was at before the 2% "tax holiday" you've been enjoying over the past two years as a result of President Obama's work.

That money has virtually nothing to do with the daily operation of our Federal Government except that the trust fund that backs up Social Security is invested in US Treasury bonds.

Arturo Conservador

7:55 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

The fiscal cliff might have been a superior resolution when compared to the approved plan. It took the courage of prior politicians to create circuit breakers to keep the federal legislature from running our economic power into the abyss. We are still not sacrificing enough. We must cut spending and have a wider base of taxpayers.

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