I agree Shannon. Ignore the gnats.

Right. It is tough to beat Santa Claus in an election. Eventually the money will run out and those that have been living off the government will be wondering what happened and either vote for the other guy (the Republican) or not vote at all.

As for the rapist's seed, I oppose capital punishment for the rapist as well as the unborn child. As soon as the DNA is set, it is a human life. Pure and simple.

Democrats are the party of liars. Its a lifestyle choice.

No democrats as Liars is in their DNA. They are born that way.

"Democrats are the party of liars""democrats as Liars is in their DNA" said two people hiding behind alias'. Priceless.

Reminding people about Democrats, Lying, Voting, God, and Israel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGCDsSceEVQ

Your being led astray UC.

No, that was the account formerly known as "News Flash". But strangely enough, the moment the Republican campaign machine shut down, so did the account formerly known as "News Flash".

Go figure...

Ms. Reid, If the Op/Ed piece is a "waste of time," what is this comment?

@SM,,,I got a email notification

Jesus, Riley....who cares about the photo? What does that have to do with the article? Stick to the subject!

@Paul> I wanted to look into who she was and where she was coming from. Her facebook page is all open and her appearance is not what she's put up for this article. Also it appears she is a very devote Catholic, which explains some of her views on abortion as well as a hard core Republican

And IVF should be illegal.....

And most types of birth control should be illegal.

I am vehemently pro-choice. I believe a 13 year old should be able to get an abortion for rape, incest or stupidity. However said 13 year old should be required to get parental consent for this medical procedure. I think that some of the left leaning idiots who feel that parental consent is not necessary are just as stupid as the right leaning idiots who feel that abortion should be illegal. Both sides need to stay out of my family! The right is out, now if we can only keep the left out as well......

I agree that your 13 year old should tell you, but wonder why she wouldn't want to?

Its not really my area of expertise, thank goodness.

Mr. Healy, I can't believe I'm writing this, but i agree with you. But even in the best of situations this discussion is uncomfortable (please set rape an incest aside as obviously disgusting and since parents could be the offender). An abortion can be almost as damaging as an unwanted pregnancy (phycially and emotionally) and anyone who has an abortion needs physical and emotional support afterwards, if the parents are not "in the loop" it can leave the child floundering for that support.

SalemMom, people who are against the law that required under aged girls to obtain approval for an abortion from a parent aren't trying to come between good parents and their daughters- they are recognizing that a young girl might be put in danger if she delayed seeking help, or if her parents put her in danger.

You sound like a good mom, don't you wish all kids could have such a thoughtful and caring adult in their lives.

Ms Schmidt, I am sure "those people" are not trying to come between the child and their parents, but they are doing just that. Imagine a 13 year old confused about sex, hormonal from a pregnancy, cramping worse that the worst pms and more alienated from her parents than ever becuase she was not told to discuss it with them. I just don't think that law solves that problem for anyone other than the child who's parents did the terrible thing to put them in that situation to begin with and that set of children needs a whole other level of support/protection that is not even "touched" by this one law.

Dear Mom,
Records show that 13 year old girls are not coming to clinics alone, not in NH. And only a few young women have driven themselves to get there alone. Your horror story isn't happening here, clinic workers care about their patients, and they do what is best for the people they treat. As far as I can see the only ones hurting these vulnerable children are the adults already in their lives who should be caring for them and have failed.

Ms. Schmidt,
Great news. I had not heard any statistic about that. Would you be so kind as to point me to your source? Planned Parenthood website? I agree with you again that the clinic workers care about their patients, my concerns have nothing to do with those workers. This is not a NH issue, but a national one. This "horror story" happens. The children who are harmed by their parents do not need this law to help them get an abortion.

Should parental consent be necessary for an abortion if the impregnated child
was molested by her Dad? The Tea party thinks so. I most certainly do not.

Ahem, people bought the DEMOCRAT LIES and DISTORTIONS. Will not take long for this to be be readily apparent. Even democrats will recognize how much they were duped.,

Simon, you're "projecting".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

Stephen-I am not a democrat, but only right wingers believe that propaganda. I have many pro-choice friends who I know would not agree with what you posted. Nice try.

Your right Tammy. Partial-birth abortion isn't a real thing. Its made up propaganda by right wingers.

Do you believe the neocon propaganda you write, or is that just to upset good people.

Republicans do very little to discourage me from supporting abortion. :-)

In all seriousness, a blastocyst is not a baby. It's little more than a parasite. It cannot survive by itself, subsist, or grow outside the womb. In my opinion, the host gets to decide what to do with their own body. Your opinion is different. But here is the difference between us: in my world, you are free to do what you want with your own decisions. In your world, you want to tell everyone else how it's going to be.

> their party of choice is for abortion on demand in any term

Actually, we're not. Most of us are more-than-willing to limit elective abortions to early in the pregnancy. (We also recognize that steps taken to make abortion harder to obtain tend to delay abortions into later in the pregnancy.)

*HOWEVER*, one thing we absolutely are adamant about is that the woman's life *ALWAYS* trumps the life of the fetus and yes, that extends throughout the entire pregnancy. So late term abortions, unfortunate though they may be, must remain available as needed to save the life and health of women.

Could you name a lie "put forth by the Obama campaign"?

Proud:

You see, the thing is that a lot of Americans actually *CAN* see through lies. And they can tell who's lying and who's not.

And it wasn't President Obama facing the camera and telling us his plans. It was all those surrogates for Romney such as Karl Rove and his American Crossroads and Crossroads GPS PACs. It was Charlie Bass and his "dancing Annie Kuster" ads. It was conservative PACs from Washington, D.C. trying to tell us about Maggie Hassan.

Republicans lie and for that reason, you assume everyone else is lying too. But it ain't so. It's just psychological projection on your part.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

Mr. Healey,
The Obama campaign sent Susan Rice out to slaughter by asking her to tell the US citizens that the Benghazi attacks were a result of a spontaneous riot after viewing a twisted anti-muslim video. The Obama campaign ran adds that told women that a vote for Gov. Romney was a vote to end abortion and access to birth control.

Before you go all crazy and start listing Gov. Romney's lies, I'll leave you with some cynical thoughts. All politicians lie to get elected. Then they lie to stay elected. It has been this way since the beginning of elections.

Rather than rehashing the election, it would be great to see some of the folks on both sides but forth some middle of the road compromises that everyone can live with. It would be nice to see Pres. Obama start that process. He has said he was going to but has talked out the other side of his mouth that he would not budge on his positions.

salem mom,
PC contention was that it was lies that won the President the election. He made no mention of the generic tone of elections. I asked him for a specific lie.

Your first contention about the Ambassador is just plane crazy and certainly not a lie.

Your second contention was that "a vote for Gov. Romney was a vote to end abortion and access to birth control"
Although Mitt Romney alleged final position on birth control and abortion were very moderate, previous iterations of his position included a support for a life at conception bill which would have made many forms of birth control and IVF illegal. He also said he would be delighted to sing a ban on all abortions. Someone might have been lying, but it would have been Mitt Romney.

So the challange still stands, could you name a lie "put forth by the Obama campaign"?

No, the R's lost. It's official, you know.
And just for the record, if your party is the one with leaders saying 47% of Americans are parasitic, things should be made so intolerable that a whole class of people will self-deport, rapists children were put there by god, lady parts shut down unless they are secretly enjoying it, women who take birth control are sluts, the President was born in Kenya and is a secret muslim, not to mention the idiotic things coming out of the mouths of our local clowns, you will continue to lose.

The election is over, President Obama did win.

However, a couple of things during the Obama campaign that were deceitful quickly come to mind;

The Obama PAC ad claiming a mans wife lost her battle with cancer because she did not have health insurance after Bain took over the company he worked at.

This is not an ad, but served the same purpose, Harry Reid speaking on the Senate floor that he has personal information that Governor Romney did not pay taxes.

And then the statements by the President, his administration and his supporters that President Obama will not raise taxes on the middle class and that Governor Romney will to pay for the 5T tax cut by raising taxes on the middle class.

We all know Obamacare raises taxes on the middle class

Priorities USA Action PAC was in no way directed by President Barack Obama. Strike One.

Harry Reid is not President Barack Obama. Strike two.

President Barack Obama's Health Care plan should save the middle class money, strike three.

Come on, there has to be some type of lie, or does there?

Mikey-Your making this too easy. Dis President Obama disavow the ad or Harry Reid statement about Romney not paying taxes. The answer is NO. So, using the same twisted, but successful, logic that Democrats employed in the last campain, President Obama is a liar, because he supports Reid and the PAC ad. Secondly, the Obama campaign, a Jen Psaki, claimed the campaign knew nothing, but later on, it was proven that she particpated in a conference call, about Soptic, before the ad was released.

President Obama also said he would not raise taxes on the middle class. Obamacare raises taxes. It raises taxes. The Obama administration argued in the Supreme Court that the mandate was a tax and the Supreme Court agreed. He lied.

Obviously no amount of fact is going to dissuade you.
President Barack Obama is a "liar" because he didn't personally condemn something someone else said. Got it......

Mike Healey - You can't be serious. You actually have some doubts as to whether the Obama campaign put forth any lies????? If you are indeed serious, then the reason Obama won the election becomes crystal clean

I'm just waiting for someone to name one PC.

Mikey- President Obama won. The election is over. Take a breath, OK. he can't blame Bush for the last 4 years and has to take responsibility. Your party will have 4 long years trying to defend him.

As for lyong. To win the next election, I think Republicans need to emulate Democrats. That is, no matter what any Democrat says, blame it on the frontrunner and call him a liar. MSNBC is the master at doing this.

Mikey, is the health care mandate a tax? Is it a tax? I will ask again, is it a tax?

salemvoter,
I can't even imagine how frustrating it must be to sing the "The President is a Lair" song and not be able to come up with a single example. You must have to doubt everything your fake news channel has been telling you.

You can call the Health Care Mandate a tax all you want, but the reality is that no one has to pay it. It is a penalty for the fraction of Americans who:
Do not have Insurance
Do not qualify for Medicaid
Do qualify for an affordable health insurance
Make enough money to afford it
But choose to make the rest of us pay their medical bills.

The mandate is not a "tax." A traffic ticket collects revenue, but is a penalty, not
a tax. I understand however the desperate right wings need to try anything to paint Obama
as to have "raised" taxes [ because he didn't, he lowered them] so OK call traffic tickets or mandates or service fees or what have you a "tax" if it somehow justify in your mind Obama raised taxes if you must. Whatever.

LOL
Maybe they should elect R. Limbaugh during the next primaries, with Michael Savage for VP.

Paul,
Tax payer money does not fund abortion(less than 3% of PP's effort), and it is in all of our best interest that women use contraception(33% of their effort). 40% of their work is spent testing poor people for STI's and the rest of their funding goes for cancer screening.
Planned Parenthood picks up where America drops the ball. They are a valuable resource to our women.

Do you think paying a dollar for contraception is better than a child's life on welfare?
Common sense! Try some

Mike, you can apply that logic to almost anything and thereby justify the government paying for just about everything. "Buy me a car so I can get to work and then you won't have to pay for my family's housing, utilities, food, medical bills, clothing, etc. plus the government will get revenue from my taxes." You get the idea......

Yes PC,
You are getting it. The only thing your missing is the cost/benefit analysis and evaluation of who might be best to administer the services.

Maybe not a car, but public transportation. Is it in a communities best interest to support a public transit program to allow the working poor to get around, to keep the city out of gridlock, cut down on pollution, etc.

Wow Mike, you sure have bought the whole socialism package, haven't you? Take individual property, income, freedoms and rights away if benefits the commune. Turn everything over to the big government and let it make all your decisions for you and give you what it determines you need. What a wonderful life, eh? Marx and the rest of them must be cheering in their graves.

City buses are Socialist? I did not know that.....

paul,
There is a button labeled [Reply] under each starting comment, if you click on it, you will get a text box that will attach to the original thread. Then you can show some cohesiveness in your thoughts.

I am well aware of your resistance to helping your fellow Americans, but that is not a choice that is available. America does not leave anybody behind.(at least tries not to)

Except if you are an Ambassador in Libya.

It didn't take long for Flashy to get back to moronic old self. Great to see you back on your feet. Must have been some dark days for you after the election. All that doom and gloom you were selling. Turned out you were full of disinformation. And at least that hasn't changed.

Keep being you Flashy, its always great to have a living caricature of right wing nutbag for us centrist to point at.

Except if you are a victim of Hurricane Sandy.

Stupid is what Flashy does.

Here is the entire GOP platform statement on preserving and protecting traditional marriage:

"The institution of marriage is the foundation of civil society. Its success as an institution will determine our success as a nation. It has been proven by both experience and endless social science studies that traditional marriage is best for children. Children raised in intact married families are more likely to attend college, are physically and emotionally healthier, are less likely to use drugs or alcohol, engage in crime, or get pregnant outside of marriage. The success of marriage directly impacts the economic well-being of individuals. Furthermore, the future of marriage affects freedom. The lack of family formation not only leads to more government costs, but also to more government control over the lives of its citizens in all aspects. We recognize and honor the courageous efforts of those who bear the many burdens of parenting alone, even as we believe that marriage, the union of one man and one woman must be upheld as the national standard, a goal to stand for, encourage, and promote through laws governing marriage. We embrace the principle that all Americans should be treated with respect and dignity."

Proud Conservative-

There is no unbiased science that proves that traditional marriage is best for children. Healthy children are the product of healthy and loving relationships that can manifest in many forms...grandparents, traditional/same sex marriage, adoption, and even single parent situations. I don't believe that anyone would argue that a two parent situation is always ideal under the right circumstances but the GOP statement is incorrect. As a sociology/anthropology professor, I can state with certainty that the statistics for children who get involved in drugs/alcohol use, commit crimes, or have to terminate a pregnancy has more to do with the social status parent/parents rather than their marital status. I have always identified with the Republican Party because I believed that the ideas that were the foundation for its philosophy were sound...I am starting to question that view in light of the "garbage" I read about how the party is just trying to protect America. The Republican Party always focused on the economy and how to provide jobs for Americans...they need to stay out of peoples bedrooms and they sure a heck need to stop telling a woman what to do with her body (I will concede late term abortions after 6 months are a problem when the mothers life is not in peril). If the party cannot recognize that if they are unwilling to pay for an abortion then they will pay for that child (statistically) to live in prison or be among the poor.

As far as you can comprehend anyways......

The homeless children paul?

Sounds like Robert A. Hall needs a nap.

You might hurt now, but hearing the truth will be the best thing for you.

These screeds are never the whole truth; they're just one yahoo's opinions. And this yahoo attended public schools, public universities, and public colleges, probably gets all of his (expensive) medical care from the VA, and now he wants to complain about how much government and liberals are costing him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_A._Hall

And these screeds are a dime a dozen, posted and re-posted on thousands of discussion boards across the nation by folks like you.

Mr. Atlant,

Can you enlighten us what is "whole truth" and what isn't in this screed?. And is the definition of a "Yahoo" is simply someone you don't agree with? Even better, does your definition of a "Yahoo" carry over to those veterans who disagree with you also?