Selectman's Behavior Under Scrutiny
An investigation into the questionable behavior of a board member will take place.
The Salem Board of Selectmen voted to launch an investigation into the questionable behavior of one of their own.
Concerns surrounding Selectman Stephen Campbell’s interactions with members of town staff were raised at the board’s meeting Monday evening in response to an incident involving Campbell and Human Resources Director Molly McKean.
In a memo to Town Manager Keith Hickey, McKean describes an unpleasant interaction she had with Campbell a couple weeks ago, during which she alleges Campbell’s demeanor was “aggressive and intimidating.”
McKean told the board she has fielded complaints from at least three other town employees that Campbell “has been aggressive or hostile to them.”
Hickey said those three employees have threatened to file hostile work environment claims against the town.
“We’re trying to be here to make the board aware in the only forum we can that there’s an issue here that’s potentially putting the town at risk for litigation,” he said.
While stressing the importance of addressing the issue “head on,” McKean told the board she was not seeking punishment or sanction; instead, McKean hoped discussing the issue would improve communication between members of the board and staff.
McKean said if the communication issue is resolved and inappropriate interactions between Campbell and town staff are eliminated; she believes the chances of litigation against the town are “close to zero.”
“I don’t think there’s an imminent threat of litigation,” she said.
In his defense, Campbell argued he tries to channel all his interactions with town staff through the town manager to avoid such conflict with town staff.
Campbell said his concern regarding severance paid to a town employee, which he was not aware of and wanted to inform the board of, led to the interaction between himself and McKean. When the town manager was unavailable to discuss the matter, Campbell went to McKean for the information he needed.
“I’m sorry if you think I was intimidating, but that expenditure came as a complete surprise,” Campbell told McKean. “I don’t see where I did anything wrong.”
Chairman Patrick Hargreaves noted Campbell can be “passionate,” like himself.
“Sometimes that passion comes out to the point I have been accused of being threatening,” Hargreaves said, adding that Campbell is generally “just trying to get the right answer.”
Campbell argued he does not recall his behavior as being aggressive or intimidating and said, “Just because it’s in a memo doesn’t mean it’s true.”
“I tried to be careful; I just wanted to know why that severance was paid. I don’t think I stepped over the line,” Campbell said, apologizing to McKean if she interpreted his behavior as aggressive or intimidating. “[McKean] felt my asking put her in a tough position, but I didn’t ask her to do anything she couldn’t do.”
McKean said that Campbell never requested anything of her that he was not entitled to, and that she never felt as though his behavior towards her was a personal attack. However; McKean clearly stated that Campbell’s demeanor towards her was aggressive and intimidating, as witnessed and verified by other members of town staff.
“I’m a trial attorney by trade. I have dealt with people whose sole purpose was to intimidate me,” McKean said.
McKean told the board the issue must be faced “head on.”
“I was prepared to stand here and say, ‘let’s take a wait and see approach to this. I cannot believe [Campbell] can stand there and recall the same interaction and say he has no idea what he did wrong,” she said. “A wait and see approach is not adequate. I think this is something you should take up with your council.”
The board voted 4-0-1, with Campbell abstaining, to bring in the county attorney or another external party to investigate the concerns and allegations detailed in McKean’s memo.
“If employees are going to file grievances, I’m not particularly interested in waiting to see when that will happen,” Selectman Michael Lyons said. “To have three employees who might file grievances, that’s pretty damning stuff. I’m pretty ticked, and I’m pretty motivated to get someone from outside of this town to take a look at this.”
chuck
6:16 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Campbell needs to resign. Do the right thing lets not have a replay of the former zba members action.
Patriot
6:58 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
@ Patch, may have mislead all the readers by the headlines, did he really ""Retire?"" What was his buy out package? Rumors are running rampant! Let the papers get the real story so rumors can be put to bed. Seems there is much more to this story than Molly wanted to tell the public!!!!!
Building Officer Retires After 36 Years
Sam Zannini was always there to help residents navigate the application process.
By Chelsey Pollock
Riley Reid
2:51 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
@Patriot. Sam's package is a personnel matter and none of your business.
Patriot
7:56 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
So nice Riley that you are again right on accuracy!
Unfortunately, OUR TAX MONEY is public. Who gets it and how much they get is most definitely my business!
But nice to know you are on top of it Riley, it is no wonder you are so upset with Selectman Campbell.
Patriot
7:56 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
91-A:4 http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/VI/91-A/91-A-4.htm
I-a. Records of any payment made to an employee of any public body or agency listed in RSA 91-A:1-a, VI(a)-(d), or to the employee's agent or designee, upon the resignation, discharge, or retirement of the employee, paid in addition to regular salary and accrued vacation, sick, or other leave, shall immediately be made available without alteration for public inspection. All records of payments shall be available for public inspection notwithstanding that the matter may have been considered or acted upon in nonpublic session pursuant to RSA 91-A:3.
Patriot
7:56 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Riley what may not be as clear is how did we end up engaging the services of a trial lawyer out of Concord. Must have been a nice pay raise I doubt she took a pay cut.
Patriot
7:56 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Like a broken watch, right once a day!
Mike D
6:43 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Passionate?? How about be professional we need a overhaul in this area anyways. Everyone seems burnt out at these jobs lately.
Patriot
7:10 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
I watched the meeting and it was McKean that was arrogant and aggressive, using her law degree as a weapon. If you don't do what I say I will sue????
Go ahead, what did he say that was illegal? What was it that Mr. Campbell wanted to know about?
I have seen when the fox is in the hen house, the fox gets agitated. Cops see it all the time when they get to close to a crime. Cover up and attack the cop!
Let me say that if they had a case, there would already be charges. Another witch hunt underway!!!!!!
salem voter
7:15 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Another canidate for the embarasment board,
Patriot
2:39 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Lord knows all Salem employees are perfect!
Rusty
7:27 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Selectman Campbell has had a target on his back for a long time and now an "intimidated" town employee is complaining. I can't help but think that this is a little overblown and well planned. Is this woman really so sensitive that Campbell hurt her feelings and made her feel uncomfortable when he was asking for information that he should have as a selectman? I just don't know what people expect from our elected officials.
chuck
7:34 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Jeff,Ron,Patty now Steven will this ever end.
F Jackie Marlow
8:20 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
It looks like the "power" of being a selectman has gone right to his head. There is no place for bullies like him. I applaud the efforts of Molly and I respect the manager, Jim Keller and Mike Lyons for backing her up. These issues are serious. No one deserves to be in a hostile work environment.
Patriot
4:06 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Let all hold hands and sing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w3Lm_gu-ZY
Brent J, Riach
8:37 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Mr. Campbell's interpersonal skills could use a little polish.
Patriot
2:39 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Seems to me the HR person has a little chip on her legally certified shoulder.
“I’m a trial attorney by trade. I have dealt with people whose sole purpose was to intimidate me,” McKean said.
Are you kidding me? Like the town has never had a grievance????
If she can't handle the job, maybe we can eliminate the position so she can collect 6 months pay which is becoming boiler plate contract language in this town.
Riley Reid
2:10 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
You can't put polish on a sneaker!
Patriot
3:57 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
And I can't fix stupid!
Denisem
9:42 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Mr. Campbell is a thug and always has been. The only percieved power he has is use his position as a hammer... it's about time somoene called him on the carpet. Pat don't confuse intimidation and agression with passion.
Patriot
2:39 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
“I’m a trial attorney by trade. I have dealt with people whose sole purpose was to intimidate me,” McKean said.
Denisem, read this statement a few times and ask who is the bully. Better than that watch the tape and listen to her demeanor. Next time you ask patch to print the salaries like they have in other towns and you will see why management does not want anyone snooping around the bank accounts!!!!
james thomas
10:36 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Here we go again why does salem have so many problems with there town officials? if it was one person making a complaint maybe you can say it was a misunderstanding but 3 others thats a big problem for campbell maybe he is burnt out and he should step down he does try to save money for the taxpayers lets hope he dont cost us money now
Patriot
2:39 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
james you can't bake a cake without breaking a few eggs! Kind of ironic that we hire a trial attorney for an HR position.
When you only make $90 k a year and have not had a pay raise, there are probably a few angry employees.
SoxPats
12:42 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Vote em' all out.
This town needs some new blood, maybe some young blood with new ideas and vision so we can get into this century.
Too much drama !
Patriot
2:39 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Watch your President tonight, young is not always cheap or better.
Dr. NO
12:42 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Yeah I get it, its very clear. The voters finally have someone who asks the tough questions about finances and those who are asked questions take offense. So lets get him by threatening to file harrassment. That way the spending ways can get back to normal.
Patriot
2:39 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Absolutely Dr. NO
If he did not break the law, the HR person should be fired!
Love NH
6:58 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
The voters have had this clown asking the tough questions for a decade now. And so far he hasn't made a bit of difference.
Jane Bingum
4:05 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
@ Patriot Obviously you feel the HR Director was the aggressive one..well actually I thought she was quite calm and well spoken..More than I can say for Selectman Campbell. His demeanor shows quite extensively through his facial expressions. This is the HR Directors job and I am thankful we have someone in our HR department who understands the seriousness of this. If Selectman Campbell was a town employee, I in some companies three written complaints would be a punishment of dismissal. Trying to fluff this over with the remarks made by McBride and Hargreaves were very unprofessional. There’s passionate and then there’s out right obnoxious. Ms McKean thank you for doing the job you were hired to do. Glad we have two business minded professionals on the board who did see the seriousness in this. Thank you Selectman Keller and Lyons.
Patriot
6:58 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
I am so sorry for not showing an appropriate demeanor that all "professionals" display. Next time I see a police officer under duress I will take note of their demeanor and file a complaint. Seems Attorney (Molly) Mckean has had time to cool her jets while writing her complaint and reviewing it with staff and some of the Selectman.
Jane if Attorney (Molly) McKean is in fact a seasoned “I’m a trial attorney by trade" she should have appeared in a calm demeanor. On the other hand Selectman Campbell was being attacked by a staff Attorney. Who's "Boss" just signed a 4 year contract which Selectman Campbell voted against. Retribution seems to be the norm in this town. Keller just panders to the team, Lyons has quite a temper even if you have not had the pleasure to witness it.
Watch Keller change his disposition when he actually finds something worth standing up for or against.
Love fence sitters that always smile! Makes you wonder what is really going through their mind!!!!!
By the way 1 selectman was concerned about undermining the Town Manager, those words seem to fall short when you think about how the selectmans actions undermine Selectman!
Scott-NH
4:28 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
We all have moments of hostility in the workplace and it's usually because someone wasn't doing their job efficiently. If Mr. Campbell was agitated, it's most likely because he was in search of information and it was not being provided to him efficiently. Ms. McKean may be using this as a means to smear the man because of his passion for fiscal conservatism in town where he doesn't like seeing money mismanaged, or spent willy nilly. Does Mr. Campbell sometimes exude to much passion, or is unpolished in his delivery, sure, but no more than anyone else I've seen do from time to time. I'd rather have someone overlooking the towns issues to much, than to little, or like some other [cough] selectmen, who DO spend willy nilly with no one to check them at the door!
Mr. Campbell may have a legal right to go after her for defamation of character, if her claims prove wrong. She's calling him out over something that has no legal basis, it's a public show for what appears to be, character assassination. Having worked in HR, being rude, is not a cause for anything, unless your a lawyer and know how to spin things, allegedly!
Patriot
6:58 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Scott I was unaware that the town manager hired, “I’m a trial attorney by trade."
What does that lead you to believe?
So if Selectman Campbell does not speak to staff, "there is zero" chance of litigation??
Are you kidding me?? That is as stupid as thinking Hargreaves would stick up for Campbell! Election season, Pat took a walk even after he told us he too was accused falsely. Real back bone!!!!!!
Betty Gay
6:58 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
To quote Mrs.McKean: She said that Campbell never requested anything of her that he was not entitled to, and that she never felt as though his behavior towards her was a personal attack, but she felt his manner was intimidating and that it warranted being addressed. Campbell said, "“[McKean] felt my asking put her in a tough position, but I didn’t ask her to do anything she couldn’t do.” Nowadays with so much pressure to protect privacy, there can be a reluctance to disclose what is actually a matter of public record, and feelings can get pretty hot on both sides, which can easily escalate into raised voices. Before going to lots of additional expense hiring outside review, perhaps the actual conversation can be re-created publicly using very polite voices. And from here on out, perhaps selectmen's requests can be made in writing so there is a record and reluctant people have a chance to have superiors respond to what they feel could be private information. That would protect both the requester and the responder. I have had a nurse refuse to give me my mother's medical records even though she was holding my medical power of attorney in her hand, but misinterpreting it. She was upset when I insisted, and surely thought I was pushy. Later she got moved off that nursing home floor, but it didn't help me right then. Moral of the story: set up ground rules for requesting information in writing so that requests can be reviewed and the law followed.
Patriot
12:44 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
With all due respect Betty Gay, this is not the same. Medical records are not subject to the RTK law.
If your statement is correct, "To quote Mrs.McKean: She said that Campbell never requested anything of her that he was not entitled to, and that she never felt as though his behavior towards her was a personal attack," Attorney (Molly) McKean should have assisted the elected official get what he asked for.
Now she could run a citizen through miles of red tape but an elected official should have been given the same respect she is demanding.
She was running block for her boss and it is just that simple. Whether Selectman Campbell was sweet spoken or gruff it would not have mattered.
I cannot imagine in the middle of litigation Attorney (Molly) McKean would have wined to the judge about the tone of opposing council.
Love NH
6:58 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
What a shock, more people calling Campbell out on his behavior. He is a bully who thinks he is always right and just says the same thing over and over until he gets his way. Well hopefully this will shut him up for once. Workplace harassment is real and could cost this town significantly, how's that for cutting expenses? And I may be wrong, but I think that since Ms. McKean was acting as the HR Director for the town she is obligated to bring these accusations forward so Campbell can only sue the town and not her personally.
Isn't it funny that these board members who just want to save the taxpayer some money end up costing us more in the long run.
Patriot
12:44 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
That's assuming there was a case. My assumption is she is holding dead cards and is bluffing!
She (Attorney McKean) was running block and time will tell if Patch follows this story who was right. I am hearing there is a cover up and Selectman Campbell just wanted some answers. Attorney (Molly) McKean said he is due the information.
Denisem
12:44 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Love NH,
Totally agree.. It's about time someone called Mr. Campbell out for sure. The word narcissist comes to mind .. but what truly throws me is followers like Patriot who will defend whatever hill Mr. Campbell decides to take even if he will eventually be a casualty of war. I think this time someone had the nerve to stand up against Steve to take a stand for what was right... Ms. McKean..Bravo!
Riley Reid
2:10 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
I like your quote "Campbell has been asking hard questions for decades but hasn't made a difference". I've always said it's easy to sit and say somethings wrong, but tell me how to fix it and I might be impressed.
B. SHANER
6:58 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
If any of you have ever been on the receiving end of Stephen Campbells bullying and intimidation you would know how everyone feels. The actions by the HR Director are a long time coming and it's about time someone takes a stand and trys to put an end to his outragious behavior.
Patriot
12:44 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
David versus Goliath, Patch run the numbers for payroll!!!!!
A volunteer against employees making millions of dollars from the TAX payers in this town. These employees are on the tax payers dime and a request gets stone walled. Information should not require a court action and if Attorney (Molley) McKean cannot provide it she should resign.
Riley Reid
12:44 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Amen to that B. Shaner! Yes, I've been on the receiving end of his bullying and I for one plan on seeking out the investigator(s) who look into this and let them hear how he was to me.
High five to our HR director for standing up for herself and the rest of the town employees!
Gbenne
6:58 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Everyone needs to chill and have a discussion and move on. Mr. Campbell needs to practice patience and continue to do raise questions as that is a great trait to have as a selectman.
Love NH
12:44 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Campbell should send his requests through the town manager. That's what he is there for. But Mr. Campbell has a "problem" with Mr. Hickey and zero patience. So instead he annoys, bullies and basically keeps town employees from doing their jobs.
SoxPats
7:10 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
@Patriot, I will be watching with great pride.
Only in Salem
12:44 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Come on people, Steve was the kid in High Schools that bullies picked on. He is a two year old that makes faces and pouts when he doesn't get his way. I cannot believe that anyone would be intimidated by his presence. So I don't believe the story. If they we're complaining that he held his breath until they gave him what he wanted, then I could believe it
Patriot
9:43 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
You analogy comparing this to Spanky and the Gang maybe crude but the outcome is accurate.
Some how after watching decades of Selectman Campbell participate in government I cannot picture him ever the way you described him. But I could picture him defending you. That is why there are usually more that two sides to a story.
Only in Salem can I watch a resident get attacked by a hired gun and the other residents let it happen.
E pluribus unum
Love NH
9:43 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Campbell may act like a two year old, but he is in a position to influence the future employment and working conditions of every town employee. He is constantly against their raises, against giving them adequate tools to do their work and if he had his way every one of them would be part time so that no one received benefits. Campbell is not above trying to remove a position out of revenge. That's a whole lot more than holding your breath and we need to be free of his tyranny at town hall.
He doesn't have a job so he just spends his time at town hall as if he were the town manager. Which is probably why he voted against extending the town manager's contract. Can you imagine Salem with Stephen Campbell at the helm? Hello Costa Concordia.
Patriot
9:43 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
http://www.employmentpg.com/our-staff/molly-s-mckean/
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Hardly someone who is intimidated
Patriot
9:43 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
So now you know why they hired an attorney for HR. Can't get a contract by town meeting? Hire a hangman!
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""Molly provides consultation and guidance on employment law and human resources issues; conducts investigations into alleged harassment and misconduct; drafts policies, procedures and handbooks; trains employers on harassment and other workplace issues; defends employers and management representatives before state and federal administrative agencies; and otherwise assists and counsels employers on harassment, discrimination, ADA, FMLA, wage/hour, diversity, terminations, reasonable accommodations and other workplace issues. She also represents individuals in matters involving disability accommodation, performance issues, separation from employment, harassment charges, and other workplace matters.""
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Pay raises should get a little easier once they silence the last bell!
Patriot
9:43 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Molly attended Franklin Pierce Law Center (J.D. 2000) and Colgate University (B.A., Art & Art History, 1994). While at Franklin Pierce, she was awarded the Best Oralist (Eastern Division) and the Second Oralist (National) prizes in the Saul Lefkowitz National Moot Court competition.
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Really???????
dwb
9:43 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
I suggest anger management or Hargreaves and Campbell
Love NH
10:09 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
I suggest that we elect whomever is running against Pat this march then do the same for Stephen next March. Problem solved.
Patriot
2:51 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Top vote getter, Good luck!!!!!
dwb
10:09 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
We really do need to hold all of those in power to a high standard. The term that Pat H used (passionate) is a poor excuse for impatience and lack of tact and compassion. It's just plain wrong and they need to be held accountable.
Patriot
2:51 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
A lot of town EMPLOYEES feel the same way!
To bad they ae not residents then could vote and enjoy the same tax increases the rest of us get.
Wiz3rd
11:33 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Where's mayor Linehan's comments?
Whomever
12:27 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
FYI The salaries are all posted in the budget link located at the town of salem website.
You may not want to look you'll make yourself sick.
Patriot
2:59 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Now see, if I ask (Molly) she would ave told me to wait and talk to the town manager who would have wanted me to fill out a right to know form. Then if I was not sweet in my speech he would claim a hostile work environment claim.
Patriot
7:56 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
@Whomever, provide a link. Getting there is as challenging as going through staff. Patch has posted other towns employee pays.
Whomever
12:27 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Ever been to Town Hall to just watch the happenings. On a recent visit, I personally witnessed 2 groups of (3-4) employees behind the counter chatting it up while several customers were waiting in line. And it wasn't business they were chatting about. More along the lines of what are you making for dinner. The line for the Town clerk was 3 deep with no indication that you should ring the bell on the counter for service.
Mr Campbell is right where he needs to be...ASKING QUESTIONS and hopefully uncovering all that is being swept through the budget.
Dr. NO
12:27 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
So lets get to the bottom of the underlying issue; why was the retiree given a $48,000 send off package? FORTY EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS!!! Are you kidding me? What was this guy a CEO or something? No one in the private sector even gets severance pay anymore. So Mr. Campbell asks the tough questions about how much and why and now he's being investigated - thats BS! The one who should be investigated are the ones who approve such nonsense.
F Jackie Marlow
1:07 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Am I the only one who finds it just a little creepy how vigorous and plentiful the Patriot's pro-Stephen comments have been. I can only wonder the motivation. Campbell's actions were all about his own agenda and not in the interest in the town as a whole. His failure to follow the chain of command speaks toward his spoiled, immature nature. Needs to go.
Love NH
2:51 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
F Jackie, you summed it up perfectly. Mr. Campbell does not know how to function in a professional environment since he doesn't spend his time at a day to day job. He has never grown up and still thinks he is entitled to anything he wants without consequence.
Patriot
2:59 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
F Jackie, Selectman Campbell is in the "Chain of Command."
Just in case you just moved to NH.
F Jackie Marlow
7:56 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Before I go down the "missing link" road, I want to point out that Molly answers to the manager and the manager answers to the board. The communication needs to follow the right path otherwise board members could walk throught the town hall or DPW shed and tell the town employees what to do directly. He should be bright enough to know that any requests or comments should go through the chair to the manager, who can then deal with his people. He was dead wrong and you are wrong for defending him.
Patriot
8:26 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
That is where you are half right. Ask any selectman if they speak with town employees? You have targeted Selectman Campbell who probably spends a small amount of time with employees compared to any other selectman. Find out how many times a town manager directs selectman to speak directly with employees.
If this was a male HR employee there would be no outrage about te tone of a question. Woman are treated differently when it is a man asking a question. Little lady ca't handle a question so all the men come out to help her!!!!! Give me a break, that is the same reason it took so long for woman to get to the front line!
Patriot
2:10 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
F Jackie Marlow, I have sat and read post after post for and against on numerous threads. Rarely does the person being attacked have the ability to respond in kind. Some time they will not lower themselves to the degrading comments. Sometimes they are bound to secrecy, and in most cases it would take to long to try and present the material needed to defend their position.
There are many times when I cannot defend Selectman Campbell. This is not one and I felt in the mood to take sport with his detractors. There have been numerous times when I have taken issue with Mr. Campbell, selectman, budget committee, and as a resident. But in every issue he has as much right to his opinion as me.
I have never seen a town employee (Trial Lawyer) attack a selectman because of the way he talks. What is worst is that they painted a picture to the residents that Sam was retiring. The fact was he did not retire at all.!!!!! He was let go and his job was eliminated. Thus the 6 month pay off and so as to soften the cut the town painted this picture as a retiree. Right or wrong about the eliminating of a position, deceiving the public is definitely wrong!
Attorney McKean decided to kill the messenger. She has no business standing in public and crying like a little school girl. Woman in the work force should be treated like every other employee, answer the questions and don't use someone "demeanor" for not being truthful.
Riley Reid
1:12 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
No matter what the issue is in town, there are always those who turn it in to a chance to insult town employees. Stephen Campbell has been a loose cannon for a long time in this town with his behavior and comments towards town employees. He's been bending the line and now he's crossed it and seeing as he's not taking responsibility for his behavior he should be held accountable for his actions. I hope whoever investigates this interviews our former building inspector who was forced out and into early retirement. I'm sure he has a wealth of inside information on how all these positions have be reassigned.
Patriot
7:56 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Riley, you are right about Sam, he does know about skeletons. By the way, is his son now do daddy's old job?
How many town employees have lost their job in the past 10 year without any help from Selectman Campbell? Sleeping on the job, punching out early, drunk driving, blah, blah, blah!
Riley Reid
9:24 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
@Patriot: Sam's son is the State Plumbing Inspector, he doesn't work for the town. I believe Sam's duties were being absorbed by Bill Scott and other members of that department.
Patriot
4:42 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
Next chance I get to go to the town office I will ask.
Dane Frederick Hoover
7:56 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
McKean said that Campbell never requested anything of her that he was not entitled to and that she never felt as though his behavior towards her was a personal attack. If it was not a personal attack and he only asked for materials that he was rightfully entitled to, what standing does the town manager or McKean have in having any inquiry or even pushing this further? This sets a dangerous precedence for our elected officials asking legitimate, lawful and necessary questions in the future.
Patriot
8:26 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
This is beginning to appear like a group of men are helping the little lady. Is that bad man giving you a hard time mamm? We'll handle him little lady!!!!!!!
To funny!!!!!!!!!
Notice all the men running to her aid?
Riley Reid
2:10 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Thank you Dane Hoover for reaffirming my choice not to vote for you. Your turn in the barrel will be coming soon with an attitude like this.
Patriot
3:57 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Wow, Riley, you considered him?
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Didn't think so!
Patriot
8:26 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
It is no wonder we don't have woman as selectman or town managers, the alpha males will have no one to help!
I am a trial lawyer by trade, really?
Riley Reid
2:10 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
FYI Patriot, there are a number of town employees who live in town and own their OWN homes here and PAY real estate taxes.
Patriot
3:57 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
10%?
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Own, they must own home else where also!
Whomever
8:26 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
@Patriot
http://www.townofsalemnh.org/reports-documents.html
Patriot
9:14 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Whomever, this is how Patch does it in other towns. Not by department:
http://windham.patch.com/articles/highest-paid-windham-employees-in-2012
Athena
2:44 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
What happned to basic respect in the workplace?
Riley Reid
2:10 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
I'm told there is plenty of respect among town employees especially in the town building. The problems started when someone's ego was inflated with his rise to the BOS. Fortunately during the early years Beth Roth ruled the board and kept Steve's shenanigans in order which Pat Hargreaves FAILS to do!
Patriot
2:10 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Athena, when employees do average, good, or excellent work they get respect. When employees fall short they are not entitled to respect but deserve to be fired!
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The Eagle Tribune reported this morning that former Zoning Board of Adjustment Chairman and state Rep. Ronald "Tony" Giordano has been sentenced
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former Woodbury Middle School teacher will soon be indicted on new theft charges
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former Salem Planning Board member Jeffrey Gray has convicted
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Respect? How about honesty? Why was everyone told Sam retired when he lost his job due to reorganization? Might only be a little dirt on the bottom of you glass but it still should give you pause when you find it after your drink!
Patriot
3:57 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Riley after they get out, (retire) ask them how they feel about the towns staff! Being away does not always make the heart fonder.
F Jackie Marlow
3:02 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
So to prove your point about town employees, you cite the actions of two elected officials and a school employee. What I see is a pattern of people being elected and then behaving badly
Patriot
4:42 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
F. Jackie Marlow, I only showed three. Attorney McKean said she was baby sitting 3 employees and that is why she was attacking the "demeanor" of a selectman. I never wrote about employees caught sleeping, leaving work while on the clock, oh I could go on but you get the point.
Athena
2:10 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
It seems some people miss the point. It is not that Campbell does not have a right to ask for information, it is that he does not have a right to act towards any employee with hostility and disrespect. If he was an employee, and not an elected official, he would be written up for his bullying behavior. The claim that I saw on TV was that three employees complained about his harrassing conduct. Campbell's defenders don't address the issue, they just use backward sexist comments, showing lack of intellect and real analysis. If you can't offer a thoughtful comment based upon critical thinking and analysis of the actual issue, divert the issue, and then call names. How about some civil discourse, like they taught us in Salem in middle school.
Patriot
3:57 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Athena, consider how many employees work for and are on the payroll. Then ask yourself; how many employees complain about their boss in percentage? Three branches of government and then there are Tax payers.
Martha Spalding
2:10 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
That's a great idea; please post and link the salaries.
That way it will be public instead of just this deal about Selectman Campbell.
Why (except for Selectman Campbell) is it all so quiet and hush hush???
What's really going on behind the scenes that we don't know about????
Selectman Campbell had a justifiable purpose and was performing his duties as Salem's elected representative.
There's more huffing and buffing about this than Benghazi where Americans were killed after they saved 30 embassy staff that would otherwise have been killed along with the embassador;
but thinking about it, what happened behind the scenes there was also Hushed up b/c it was embarassing for the real facts to be revealed.
Riley Reid
9:24 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Town employees salaries are always posted. There are no surprises there. How about we post your salary Martha ? Like it's been said many times, it's not whether the purpose was justified, it was his behavior which a number of employees have a problem with.
And to compare this to Benghazi is NUTS!
Dane Frederick Hoover
2:08 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Riley Reid, something tells me if I walked on water your next complaint on patch would be, “Hoover can't swim”. I won't hold my breath for your next vote.
Facts are facts and McKean was clear, she has ZERO merit for a lawsuit and ZERO merit for a complaint. Being irritated while dealing with a government official is NOT a crime. If being irritated by government officials were a crime, 75% of DMV customers would be in jail. I believe that all people should be treated with respect and dignity, but it’s clear from McKean’s own statement that Campbell was not even irritated with her. Per her own statement, he asked only questions he was entitled and never personally attacked her. I know that the town manager has sworn and had out bursts at elected officials and committee members in the past. One profanity laced outburst was so bad he had to provide written apology. Odd that none of the people in these posts mention that or call for him to be removed from his job or cited him as a “risk” for litigation to the town.
Riley Reid
9:24 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
If one morning I walked on top of the water across the Potomac River, the headline that afternoon would read: "President Can't Swim." ~Lyndon B. Johnson
So I guess we can add "plagiarist" to your resume!
I knew it wouldn't be long before Selectman Campbell had a new prodigy. And as for the town manager, the only time I saw something wrong was when your buddy Patty bumped chests with him after a meeting. The town manager was foolish for not calling the Police and pressing assault charges.
Mr Hoover go back and listen to all that Ms McKean had to say. 3 town employees are contemplating filing complaints that could lead the town down the road to litigation.
Patriot
4:42 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.
Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)
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Dane Frederick Hoover
2:08 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
I personally like and respect all the members of our towns staff and elected board members including Mr. Hickey. I may spar with some of the board members and town officials at meetings on issues I disagree with them on, but I always treat everyone with respect. I already see some people giddy with excitement over the silencing of people with this kind of attacks, but it won’t work on me (which was threatened already in this blog that I would be next in the line of fire after Campbell). I have way too boring of a life, and have nothing but respect for the people that our town elects/employs regardless of how they stand on spending or the issues. I will continue to stand up for whats right, and helping our town get on a solid footing financially for future generations. I think we all should try to disagree without being disagreeable and going so personal in our attacks.
Riley Reid
9:24 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Let me help you out Dane, keep your dog in your own yard or the next interaction you have with a town employee will be the Animal Control Officer.
"spar", interesting choice of words
Athena
11:12 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Patriot, after reading your comments again, it seems as though you purposefully search for reasons to excuse Mr. Campbell's conduct. Its one excuse after another. I don't understand why Mr. Campbell cannot just admit his behavior was not professional or acceptable, and the pledge to treat all employees with respect, and then move on, as McKean suggested. Instead, Mr. Campbell, and his proxy, deny he did anything wrong,blame it on his fiscal stance, essentially call McKean a liar, and then blame McKean for calling out inappropriate behavior, even though that is her job. Then to add insult to injury, you degrade this entire discourse by making crass sexual innuendo, and insinuating that Mckean's sexual status has a role in this... This continued pattern leads to the conclusion that your goal is not to voice a legitmate opinion, but simply to justify unprofessional and inappropriate conduct in the workplace by avoiding the actual facts, and deflecting the issue. Am I missing something? Why don't we wait and see what the investigation reveals? If in fact Mr. Campbell acted in appropriately, can we blame his fiscal stance, or will we claim the investigation was biased? This is was unfair...Time will tell...
Patriot
4:42 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
It is sad that only the "Good ole Boys" as the public has come to recognize the selectman as, didn't have a woman to side with them. I still believe if this was brought forward by a man there would have been a call for evidence. Better than that, imagine if the shoe where on the other foot and Selectman Campbell had brought her case before the board pointing the finger at her!
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Don't want to be accused of Plagiarism, but someone once said "let me help you pretty lady!"
Riley Reid
2:05 am on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Amen to waiting for the investigation to be complete. What people are also forgetting is that this is not something new with Selectman Campbell. There have been documented accounts of this kind of behavior going back to when he was on the Budd Comm and we've all seen how he treats others on the boards if he disagrees with them. Remember back when Beth Roth was Chairman, some of the daggers and looks he threw her way were harsh.
Patriot
4:42 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
People call for and demand respect. Then they bring a flimsy he said she said case before a public tribunal? And this body is far from being impartial!
Riley Reid
4:42 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
Does anyone know if an agency has been contacted and started an investigation into this ?
Dane Frederick Hoover
2:05 am on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
investigation into what? The whole story is out and Mckean already said she was not personally attacked and he only asked questions he was entitled to end of story. Is there a law against being irritated when asking questions that I am unaware of? Keep trying Riley maybe someone will believe there is something to be investigated.
Athena
10:12 am on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Mr. Campbell is held to the same standards and laws regarding his behavior in the workplace/town government, with a few critical exceptions. ONe, the only way for Ms. Mckean to bring her claims forward was in a public session, under state law. Two, although Ms. Campbell cannot sexually harrass or intimidate employees, other selectmpersons, etc., there is no recourse. He can't be fired and can't be removed but for a superior Court removal process. He can be voted out, but because most electrorate are uneducated above town government, that tends not to happens. Indeed, ignorant comments like yours, and I mean ignorant using a dictionary definition, don't help. They obfuscate the issues and perpetuate old sexual and other steretypes....
Patriot
1:26 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
I am sorry for offending your good manor. No I'm not!!!!!
""He can be voted out, but because most electrorate are uneducated above town government, that tends not to happens.""
I would ad an ignorant comment but yours will do.
Mr McKean could have had the issue address in non public, there are state laws to protect all citizens. Now not breaking the law certainly leaves some without recourse. If you have nothing to do help the little lady out and go through RSA 644. Maybe there is something in the statute that you can charge SELECTMAN Campbell with.
Riley Reid
9:26 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
REMEMBER, there are 4 employees who have complaints with how they were treated by Selectman Campbell. There have been other documented reports spreading over a number of years that were not acted on but will come out now .
All you SC supporters are going to be very disappointed in your boy!
Patriot
12:15 am on Friday, February 22, 2013
Bring it on or crawl back in the cave. I have worked for people that where a lot meaner than anything you find in this town. The boss said if you don't like it there is the door. Don't let it hit you in the butt on the way out!
Riley Reid
10:12 am on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
The Budd Comm is in a lot of trouble if you can't see the whole picture. Ms McKean was the messenger for 3 town employees who feel they were mistreated by Selectman Campbell. The investigation is going to see if those complaints have any merit because as you obviously don't understand, there are rules on how one gets treated in the workplace.
Patriot
1:26 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
And there are people that just can't take the heat. At least Hillary didn't complain about someones demeanor.
Why did Attorney (Molly) McKean wait until after the town manager received his "New" 4 year contract before bringing this complaint.
[Art.] 15. [Right of Accused.] No subject shall be held to answer for any crime, or offense, until the same is fully and plainly, substantially and formally, described to him; or be compelled to accuse or furnish evidence against himself. Every subject shall have a right to produce all proofs that may be favorable to himself; to meet the witnesses against him face to face,
Dane Frederick Hoover
9:26 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Do the people hostile towards me and Mr Campbell watch any the budget committee meetings? Ever see the hostility or agitation that comes toward us from some members during meetings like Pam Berry after nearly any question we ask? Look, she is passionate, and I can understand that. I do not hold it against her personally. If she were a conservative I think there would be calls for her to resign, or be removed from office. No one can say that Mr. Campbell treated town officials remotely close to the way she treats us. As for the incident with McKean and Campbell all I can go on is the words of the people involved. McKean and Campbell agree on the facts. He asked only questions he was entitled, and he did not personally attack her. She then mentions vaguely other anonymous incidents but gave no details. This seems as a way of silencing Mr Campbell and others that may want to keep spending at a reasonable rate of growth in line with inflation. Does anyone in this blog think that the elected officials can make everyone happy when we have to deal with budget short falls, and tough choices that may put people out of jobs?
Riley Reid
12:15 am on Friday, February 22, 2013
A smart man would have just sat back and have been quiet. But then Dane you can't help yourself! Sorry Dane, no more life jackets left, you go down with Stephen!
Patriot
12:15 am on Friday, February 22, 2013
There is no law that says you have to smile. There is no law that says you have to be nice. There is a law Right to know and that means you have to give information that is requested. They are just trying to smear a selectman in hopes people will go dormant.
Patriot
1:26 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Of course this case has been brought to the kangaroo court of public opinion.
Riley Reid
12:12 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Always a conspiracy isn't there Patriot? Please, enough, the process calls for an independent investigation and then if some criminal charges are warranted that's when they will be sought. But last I checked, being a rude, arrogant person wasn't against the law, but it is against the rules of work place behavior.
Patriot
9:26 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Step up to the plate Riley and show me those rules. And tell anyone that has proof of the activity you just wrote of to bring it forward. Other than that, all you have is he said/she said.
Employees that don't have a contract become adverse, it happens! I want to know why they told the public Sam retired and then paid him 42 thousand dollars because his job had been actually eliminated!
It was a lie and they new it. Attorney (Molly) McKean should have filed as soon as she knew about the first employee not after she accumulated 3 (supposedly) verbal complaints. And coincidentally just after the town manager got his new contract.
No conspiracy just in house bull. I have watch numerous selectman whose demeanor makes Selectman Campbell look like a kitten. Ever hear about a selectman getting locked in a closet?
Riley Reid
11:16 am on Friday, February 22, 2013
Patriot you obviously don't work. Stop by the Town office and ask for a copy of the employee handbook which explains the code of conduct expected in the workplace and what behavior is not allowed.
Patriot
11:13 am on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
The only thing obvious is people eating at a public trough have different manors. I can tell you that the boss or owner of a private company would not even think about his/her demeanor if an employee wrote a letter like the one written and authorized by staff. To quote a business man "Your Fired!"
Patriot
11:01 am on Thursday, February 21, 2013
@ Kaitlyn Woods, is there a follow up on this article? I hope you will speak to the investigator personally to get the real story. I doubt if you will get any information if you are not a reporter.
Riley Reid
2:59 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Why is it I read today that the AG's office is beginning to investigate a Selectman in Danville within days of allegations, and we're still waiting for news on this here in Salem ?
Patriot
9:26 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
That in itself maybe very telling!
james thomas
9:26 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
There will not be criminal charges brought for being rude to someone what should be done is a stern warning and if it happens again then your removed from the board or they can just ask him to deal with the town manager if i was in his shoes thats the only person i would want to deal with after this. if he dont go into the town hall with a smile on his face anyone can say anything now.
Riley Reid
12:15 am on Friday, February 22, 2013
Unfortunately James what you don't know is that "little" warning were given but the behavior continued. This has been a long time coming !