Salem School Renovations Debated at Forum
Possibilities for renovations at Fisk, Haigh and Soule Elementary Schools discussed.
The Salem School Board heard impassioned testimony from many residents Tuesday night at a forum on the future of Salem elementary school renovations.
Many were parents of elementary-aged students who fear a day in the near future when the number of neighborhood schools in town will be reduced based on projected enrollments showing a decline.
While the School Board has not committed officially to any plan yet for 2013, options are on the table regarding some combination of renovations for Fisk, Soule and Haigh Elementary Schools.
Some expressed concern about the district's potential willingness to close Haigh if enrollments continue to lag.
Barron, Lancaster and North Salem Elementary Schools have already been renovated. A plan to renovate the three other schools last year did not pass at the March school election.
School Board Secretary Peter Morgan said the board was hoping to get input from the community on how best to put forward a plan that will be approved by the voters.
SAU 57 Superintendent Michael Delahanty explained to the nearly 150 people in the audience at Salem High School that an enrollment projections study commissioned by the district shows a continued precipitous decline in enrollments over the next 10 years, continuing a trend that started in 2000.
The district enrolls 1,653 students in kindergarten through Grade 5 currently. Projections indicate that number will drop by 169 students in 2014-2015, by 236 in 2015-2016 and by 300 in 2016-2017.
"It's clear from the enrollment projections we won't need six elementary schools by that time," said Delahanty.
Based on current estimates, closing Haigh would save the district $900,000 annually in operating costs and not doing a full renovation of the school would save $3.2 million over the life of a 20-year bond, according to Delahanty.
Delahanty and members of the school board reiterated several times during the two-and-a-half hour forum that there's no current plan to close Haigh.
But Delahanty questioned whether it made "prudent sense" to operate Haigh if it's not needed in the future.
Resident Rich Wilson said he believed the school enrollment study has "significant flaws," and didn't take into account several important factors like private kindergarten enrollments in town.
Wilson also felt "in no uncertain terms" the Haigh community as a group would not support any plan that does not include their school in the renovations.
Dave Barrett, a Haigh parent, said renovating schools is one factor that would drive more young families to move to Salem in the future.
"We're going to have a surplus of housing and that's not going to be purchased by the elderly who are looking to downsize," Barrett said.
Sherry Kilgus-Kramer, the president of local school advocacy group Strengthen Our Schools, said her group has supported and continues to support the renovation of all elementary schools in Salem.
"Enrollment projections are uncertain," Kilgus-Kramer said. If enrollments go back up and Haigh is closed and not renovated, she said it could be "a catastrophe to not be prepared for that scenario."
Resident Jeff Hatch, who no longer has children in the school system, took issue with what Wilson said previously about the lack of support from the Haigh community if Haigh is not part of the plan.
"That turned people like me off," Hatch said.
Several who spoke wanted to see the emphasis perhaps put more on needed renovations at Salem High School. Current junior Nick Fosman actually produced a piece of wall tile that had fallen off at the school.
"Our school is literally falling apart," Fosman said. "We need to do something about it."
"This school doesn't need to be renovated," Hatch said. "It needs to be torn down."
To further illustrate Fosman's point, a mouse running around the floor of Seifert Auditorium caused a stir and interrupted a later speaker's comments.
School Board Chair Pamela Berry said the high school will be the next in the renovations master plan and that planning and design for renovations will take two years to complete.
Near the end of the forum, a plan was discussed where Fisk and Soule would be renovated at their full level while Haigh would received a modified, reduced renovation at a cost of about $2.3 million.
Under this, Delahanty said Haigh would be renovated so that it could be "a viable municipal asset to the community."
Love NH
7:54 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Why is it that the high school kid made more sense than most of the other people in the audience last night? I agree with him. Fix what needs to be fixed most first. The Soule and Fisk need the room. Mothball the Haigh and move on to the high school. I lost count of how many times I heard that good schools raise property values last night. But five good elementary schools and one good high school will do more for property values than six good elementary schools and a high school that is falling apart.
And Mr. Wilson, the least you could have done was to acknowledge that the authors of the enrollment study were not in error, but that you were the one who made the mistake after their explanation made it clear to the rest of us.
salem mom
8:07 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
I couldn't agree more! The board needs to address the HS first and then circle back to the Soule and the Fisk. My only comment is that they need a different plan than the one they gave us 3 years ago.
Close the Haigh now. It is more painful for all involved to keep that school open. Rip it off like a bandaid don't torture us for the next 5 years and then close it. I know some Haigh parents who will support this plan, so we won't lose all of their support.
Simon Says
8:11 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
If the number of students keep going down then why do the costs never go down?
salem voter
8:15 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
The Soule Sch needs to be closed also. Move those students to the Fisk.
Love NH
8:33 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
I don't think that would be very practical. The Fisk would have to double in size to accommodate all of the Soule students and there is not enough land there to do that. Not to mention it cost a lot of money.
Why do you think the Soule School needs to be closed?
chuck
8:26 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
I agree the Soule should be closed. A new High School should be built combining the Woodbury with the High Sch. Less Students + fewer schools = lower TAXES
Scott-NH
9:05 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Haigh is the smallest school in the district and if enrollment is scheduled to decline, I'm not understanding why we wouldn't divert it's renovation dollars [regardless if its $2.3 or $3.2M] and it's operating expenses [$900K] to other schools where it would benefit the town and improve the quality of the other schools?
As a taxpayer, I'm not going to vote for the Haigh remaining open or monies being invested in it, when we know very well, it's not needed. Salem residents are intelligent enough and aware enough, that if the enrollment numbers suggested otherwise, we'd not be talking about closing it.
As for closing the Soule, I'd have to ask how many students that facility is housing and if Fisk can actually accommodate the increase? With Haigh, those students could be dispersed among Lancaster, North Salem and Barron at least.
Jeff Hatch
11:03 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Even if the Haigh school is closed that building will need 2-3 million dollars of renovations & repairs. The School District doesn't plan on selling this building and I believe they shouldn't. This school has been opened and closed before. These projections are only for the next 5 yrs or so. We may need to open this school at the drop of a hat if these projections are wrong. Some may say well that's a reason to renovate this school just as we're doing the others. I think spend 20Million plus for a safety net is a bit expensive but 2-3 million dollars is justifable.
Joe A. (Average)
10:56 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Why in the world have these schools gone to the gutter in the first place? Hello community school board members and school supervisors you are all now enjoying the positive feedback on the other good standing schools when you do the average and one school receives a 0 and another (the HS) reveives a low score too it brings the average down very significantly. Your grades are in super. and they are disappointing. I'm moving to Windham.
Love NH
11:14 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Joe A., any plans to edit this so that it makes sense?
And enjoy the 12% increase in your taxes when you get to Windham.
Riley Reid
12:51 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
@JOE A, When these schools were built I can't imagine they were ever intended to last as long as they have. Back when they were built we didn't have computers, cell phones or hybird cars. Wake up it's 2012, these buildings should be torn down and rebuilt. One ob the big cost in renovations is the removal of all the materials used back in the 60's that have asbestos in them.
The high school is an embarrassment, anyone who has kids in sports and goes to other communities for games knows this. .And just so everyone is ready, when we are done with the schools the Town Office building, Police Station and Central fire station are next. Taxes are going up, is unavoidable
David Kincman
12:53 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
I have lived in Salem for 5 years now and each year the school committee's priorities have changed each year. Last year when Bernie Campbell suggested not renovating the Haigh school, he was blasted by the entire committee to the point he said it wasn't a suggestion, just a thought he had. How can the priorities change year to year. Yes, the voters voted no to the school committee's proposals, but the priorities remain the same (or at least they should). The school committee seems to just want to spend our money. If one plan does not pass, they will come up with a new plan to spend our money. Stick with your priorities and one day, your proposals will pass.
Love NH
1:24 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
David. Give the school board some credit. They listened to the voters. Commissioned a study to confirm Mr. Campbell's assertions that the enrollment was declining. The study confirmed this and they modified their plan accordingly. That's the right way to do it in my book.
David Kincman
12:56 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
As a side note, did anyone notice the recent property tax rates for Salem and where the increase came from? Most were close to level funded, except when it came to the school portion of the tax rate.
ProSalem
8:55 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Did anyone bring up the possibility that the reason Salem school enrollment is dropping so much is because the condition of our schools are deplorable? I think the SB needs to propose a plan that families and concerned citizens here can get excited about. Some will stand up and say "buildings don't teach", but perception is reality. When prospective home buyers with pre-school or school aged children are looking for a home on the I-93 corridor, most would pay 15% more in taxes to send their kids to a more modern school in a town with some recreational facilities. Salem is and will continue to have difficulty attracting young families as long as our schools and recreational facilities dont keep pace with our competition. Not attracting young families will eventually drive down home values as there are less buyers, and thus lower tax revenues. I know some would like to see Salem become an over-55 community and celebrate the lowest tax rate in the state but that is a pretty boring and lifeless town to spend the remainer of your years in. The families in Salem, if they turn out and are motivated, have the votes to pass whatever school renovation plan is needed to get Salem back on track and I know many seniors that want to give the children of Salem a more modern school like their kids had. The School Board needs to provide bold leadership and put something on the table that the families and others who care about Salem's future and our home values can get excited about.
Joe A. (Average)
10:03 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012
Taxes must go up if this very diligent plan for rebuilding all the Salem schools is going to happen. Windham has higher tax rates and apparently nicer schools (Love NH) so what a coincidence this is. I agree it will devistate the budget so more money must come from somewhere, raising taxes are unavoidable if people don't break out of their narrow-minded perspectives because there are other places to look for state revenue. LOL maybe my comment does not make any sense because I went to a private salem school and a public salem school. Haigh may be the ugly duck in the pack but remember Salem's budget for teachers can barely afford salary increases not to mention there are no incentives for pursuing higher education once a teacher job is landed. Now you may say how much education does an elementry school teacher need but that's not the point, what is the point is our committee for the school board listens to the votors exceptionally well yet they don't understand how to run themselves.
Parent Taxpayer
8:42 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012
Why not rent the Haigh School out to the Birches Academy of Salem NH? They are a public Charter school funded primarily by the state. Use the money from this towards renovations of the other schools in Salem.
Parent Taxpayer
Riley Reid
11:07 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012
Salem's tax rate needs to go up and there is room for that and we'll still be below other neighboring towns.